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CIP Endeavour decision
I only came across your email from June  today, which is sad, because if I had seen it earlier I would have encouraged others to reply to your reasonable questions.
I'm quoting your original text below, and hopefully this will kick the discussion into action.
who I am: I work as a operartions engineer at a data centre in Europe
I haven't had any experience in working in linux collab projects yet andI think it is very wise for anyone considering participating in a community, to understand the agenda and scope before committing. So your questions are entirely reasonable. I'm not sure CIP yet has thorough answers, but I will try....
Is it at all imperative for you gathering together individuals to solveCIP is a Linux Foundation Collaborative Project, with a small number of founder member organisations  who are in effect the sponsors. As you can see from  the emphasis is currently on companies rather than individuals.
Are extraneous forces really welcome?I consider myself an extraneous force also, and am waiting to see what the answer is :-)
Our lack of response to your original email must have been a disappointing welcome for you, and I hope some other participants will respond to clarify properly.
To what level in software terms do you want to bring about innovations?Overall I think CIP is aiming more to increase confidence and reliability in relevant software, rather than bring about innovations. IMO it would be clearly unwise to put absolutely latest/unstable software into (for example) a nuclear power station before verifying its performance over a period of time. But I think we *need* to see some innovations in processes, and validation, and reproducibility, and long term maintenance of deep systems software - including all the way down to how driver level code is done.
Others may disagree of course - i hope they speak up! :)
Are there opportunities for individuals or is it rather meant to cheaplyFor CIP I must leave this to other members. However you may be interested a separate thread of discussions on another community list, about Trustable Software Engineering  which I think has some complementary and overlapping aims. For sure I can say that individual contributors are welcome there, and I'm hoping that the content will prove to be of interest to the CIP community also.
Noriaki Fukuyasu <fukuyasu@...>
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Thanks for bring this back up :)
SO SORRY for not responding to your email for a long time.
>Are extraneous forces really welcome?
You ARE very welcome :)
We are looking to reach out to more friends to work together.
>Are there opportunities for individuals or is it rather meant to cheaply
>tap into ressources? Can one ascend therein?
Yes, the participation of individual developer is very welcome.
You will see the technical discussions will be started to be thrown to this mailing list from now on. So we are looking forward to collaborate with you!
On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 5:26 PM, Paul Sherwood <paul.sherwood@...